Kari Aittomäki kirjoitti: ↑maalis 8, 2019, 01.03
Tuosta tulee mieleen jokin Kari Uodin haastattelu, muistaakseni linnareissun jälkeen.. jossa hän kertoi vaikuttavan liikkumattomana että hänellä oli vääränsorttinen passi (johonkin luottamustoimeen tai jotain.)
- Mikäs passi sinulla sitten on?
- Minulla on Helsingin Jujutsuklubin passi.

Kova jätkä. Ja kyllähän se Orrevainaan kanssa jotain kävi jumppaamassakin.

Mika kirjoitti: Niin no, nyrkkeilyssä päähän lyödään varmasti enemmän.

Mitä mieltä @jarkkop on tuosta uutisesta noin niin kuin nyrkkeilyyn peilaten? Onko nyrkkeilevillä nuorilla havaittu kognitiivisia ongelmia? Jos ei ole, tuskinpa vapaaottelijoidenkaan tarvitsee aiheesta murehtia.

Tero kirjoitti: Ikavävä tapaus ja olet oikeassa, vahinkoja sattuu.
Silti siitä bussin tieltä olisi varmaan voinut poistua. Eikä vedellä käkättimeen ja kuristella. Ne ei enää ole vahinkoja.

DeusVult kirjoitti: Samaa minäkin utelin... Minusta on aika outo ajatus että joku ei tietäisi päähänpotkimisen tai hakkaamisen olevan vaarallista...

HarriN kirjoitti: Hesarin kuukausiliitteen Venäjä-aiheisessa jutussa moskovalaiset skinit treenaavat kädet yläviistoon osoittaen vapaaottelua Roman Zentsovin johdolla. 88!

Kylläpä nyt vapari on esillä.

Mixfight.ru published a statement on their site disputing allegations made by Russian SOVA Informational Site, that Russian MMA fighters and particular Red Devil fighters are supporters of various Russian Neo Nazi skinheads organizations. SOVA is a site dedicated to fight the fast-growing Russian Nationalistic groups in Russia.

It seems after this publications SOVA removed the original story from their website: sova-center.ru

The original story stated that:

1. Vyacheslav Datsik (not red devil member) was part of group that attacked various non-Russian businesses in Russia; hate-crime motivated. He was arrested.
2. Aleksander Emelianenko was filmed meeting together with Dmitriy Demushkin - Leader of Slavic Union (Nationalistic Organization)
3. Roman Zentsov gave a Master Class training session on the territory of training facility in one of the Neo Nazi Organizations.
4. Fedor Emelianenko autographed a poster that is hanged in the office centers of RONS (another nationalistic organization) that reads "To Countrymen RONS from Fedor Emelianenko"

So Mixfight has published the following to dispute the above mentioned article (my rough traslation from Russian): http://mixfight.ru/info/overviews/20...ltrapravyeboi/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Comments to the article "Right Extremists Mixed Martial Arts"

December 3rd, Informational-Analytic site "SOVA" has published an article, in which they try to make a connection Mixed Martial Arts with Extreme Right movement. Allegations that connect nationalistic organizations are based on photographs and videos with members of the organizations wearing T-Shirts with symbols of SS.

Fedor Emelianenko was very upset that his autograph serves as evidence of connection with some organization. "I have many people asking for autographs all the time. Different people come up to me with photos and posters, and ask autographs for their friends. I sign posters for various sport clubs that are unknown to me. I am against all nationalistic and racist organizations.

According to the article's author, it seems as if Vladimir Putin supports extreme right, because he attends Mixed Martial Arts events, and the fighters allegedly connected with members of RONS, which is illogical at this point.

Vadim Finkelstein (who I believe is Jewish): "We live in Russia, which is a multi-nationalist country. Red Devil club represents our country in a number of most prestigious events in MMA, combat sambo, jiu-jiutsu. We have Russians, Armenians, Jews, Azerbaijanians, Dagestanians, African-Americans training with us. We do not differentiate athletes by their race. If a person is talented, his race, political or religious views do not matter."

Roman Zentsov also commented about the article: "I often give Master-Class training session for various organizations (OMON, FSO), as well as for marines. I do not know their political views."

Aleksander Emelianenko says that Dmitriy Demushkin is his fan: "We do not choose our fans. There are people who like Mixed Martial Arts and they follow the growth of the sport. I do not have any associations with SS and do not agree with the views of this organization."

If a person has fans it does not mean that he himself is connected to the acts, which his fans participate in. If a fighter has a fan who participates in Mariinsk Theater, we do not claim that this fighter sings in Opera. So why do they draw similar conlusions is baffling.

Red Devil fighters are open to communication and if the journalists of SOVA site did not draw hypothesis based on rumors that are being spewed by right extreme right and neo nazi groups, they could have received exclusive interviews, in which our athletes would have happily answered all their questions.